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concepts of reality. [Mar. 17th, 2010|07:48 pm]
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markxiii
I've been meaning to do this for along time, write about parts of The Satanic Bible, and how I see them. I think, like all Bibles, it is open to be interpreted in many ways.

"Herein you will find truth-and fantasy. Each is necessary for the other to exist; but each must be recognized for what it is. What you see may not always please you; but you will see!"  Pgs.21-22 The Satanic Bible.

When I first read this, of course it's words didn't really sink in. But one day, when I was re-reading this, my eyes froze on the word "fantasy" and I smiled.

Main Entry: fan·ta·sy
Function: noun

2 : fancy; especially : the free play of creative imagination
3 : a creation of the imaginative faculty whether expressed or merely conceived: as a : a fanciful design or invention b : a chimerical or fantastic notion c : fantasia 1 d : imaginative fiction featuring especially strange settings and grotesque characters —called also fantasy fiction
4 : caprice
5 : the power or process of creating especially unrealistic or improbable mental images in response to psychological need <an object of fantasy>; also : a mental image or a series of mental images (as a daydream) so created <sexual fantasies of adolescence>

So, for me, being a Satanist means being able to seperate TRUTH from FANTASY.  Fact/fiction, reality/imaginary. What is real and here and what I have to deal with, everyday, as long as I choose to live.

Now, that being said, it's time to look into The Satanic Bible and see what is truth and what is (all together now!) fantasy.  Now LaVey here, this guy was a cozen sharpie, he was! And I say this with a smile. It's not like he had the kool-aid or anything. He just wanted those who were 'better' to know it.  And to BE it.  One way I believe he did this is by having the reader understand the truth in his writings. Not just read it, quote it, look cool doing it, what ever, but knowing, what is in front of you(his writings) may NOT be 'truth'. To believe, whole heartedly, that what he wrote is the be all end all this is right hail Satan blahblah would make you nothing more than....a sheeple. To look at his words and to think/question/argue and just say, "um..no, I don't believe that" doesn't make you less of a Satanist in my book, it makes you more, for YOU ARE YOUR OWN GOD.  Ofcourse if you don't believe in anything he wrote, you're just not a LaVeyian. But if you can read his word, and weave your mind through them, see the magic in them, how he manipulates and makes you feel-then you will UNDERSTAND them! 

In parting, Not all words are truths, and not all truths are lies.

HS
-Stella
 

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I'mmmmm bacccckkkkkk [Mar. 15th, 2010|04:10 am]
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markxiii
[Current Mood |okayokay]

longer post later, it's 4 am, and I need some sleep
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That White Candle Subject [Sep. 13th, 2009|05:46 pm]
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consortofvenus
LaVey's original intent in using the white candle at the right of the altar was to represent the hypocrisy of the left hand path, or self-denial. I like it. I think the right hand path is both of those things. It serves as a structural representation in ritual of my belief that it is better to embrace my humanity.

To replace it LaVey began using the white skull candle in revenge rituals. As a matter of official ritual of the church of Satan, I feel that the previous concept was more 'positive'. The former represents life-affirmation and philosophical intellect whereas the latter represents death in vengeance rituals. But I think that death is, objectively speaking and in the realms of the strong, the incorrect focus. The rituals and vengeance in Satanism are all meant to be life-affirming (for me, not the enemy who is making it difficult for me to live life).

I'm not saying that using the skull or other images of death in Satanic ritual is unSatanic. But it isn't ideal characteristically, by my reckoning. It isn't representative of the Satanic religion's ideal of celebrating strength and indulging weakness. The COS's explanation leaves me wanting and if they could call it a matter of indulging aesthetic weakness I wouldn't really have a problem. Weakness should be indulged with self-awareness and that is what is missing here.
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Are YOU defying society with your style and beliefs? [Apr. 25th, 2009|04:48 pm]
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theevillucy
[Current Mood |okayokay]
[Current Music |To Catch A Predator on TEEVEE]

Hello there
Long time no typey type, I am Evil Lucy theevillucy, I have been a Satanist for about 13 years now since reading- Dr Anton Szandor La Vey's "The Satanic Bible"- Through out the years, I considered myself to be heterosexual, then in my early 20's I delved into bi-sexuality- Now, as a married woman to another woman aka: markxiii, I just leave it as: "I am married"

What I wanted to know here:

How do you combine your Satanic beliefs, with your daily lives, regardless of your sexual orientation- For example, when I told my friends that I was a Satanist, they assumed that since I loved women so much, that I was a Wiccan, a witch of some sorts, but not a Satanist- I guess it could be because in some sense, Satanism can be a bit masculine and arrogant- La Vey praises pride in yourself, and says that we should be all like: "BOW DOWN BEFORE ME FOR I AM A SATANIST, THE HIGHEST EMBODIMENT OF LIFE"

I don't consider myself a dyke, nor a butch, or a femme, but just an assertive woman who knows what she wants out of life, and through ups and downs, tries to get it, be it a job, or a better sense of self preservation- Sometimes I lose sight of my Satanic religion, and get all mopey and depressed and just curl myself up into a ball- So this is a weird question: How do you deal with your Satanism, like when you're down?, or if you're not a Satanist, but you know some stuff about La Veyan Satanism, do you consider people who are Satanists, do you think we're arrogant because of the Bible, or because of how we were born
And if you are an Occultist, does your sexuality come into play with your religion/beliefs

I'd really like to connect with more people in the community, so I am just throwing this out there

That's all

Love and Loaded Guns
-Evil Lucy
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Collective Morality in This Day and Age [Apr. 24th, 2008|04:21 pm]
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consortofvenus
From the much hated (within Pagandomme) and yet very perceptive, intelligent Robin Artisson...

From a Heathen World to a Christian World: Can Universal Morality Work?

From what I can tell, this sort of thinking is very common among Satanists so I thought this comm would find it interesting. And, from my own point of view, Odinist/Heathen/Asatru/ people's beliefs are shockingly close to LaVey's ideas (though not quite).
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Two and a Half Men Season 3 Episode 6 [Apr. 2nd, 2008|09:02 pm]
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consortofvenus
Best episode ever. And they didn't make as much of a mockery out of Satanism as I thought they would, either. The part was well acted, the script was great, the chick was hot, the coven... the curse... being scared off by Evelyn... who... seems to put fear in the heart of Satanists somehow. By the way? Evelyn just earned some awesome points, there.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0735157/

I want a copy of this episode. I will pay. Can anyone get it for me? Please? I'll cry!

That was just awesome, even if they were devil worshipers. Not so bad, for devil worshipers. Pretty cool devil worshipers. You know how other shows would have exaggerated this kind of story, but not Two and a Half Men.
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Redskin The General [Mar. 4th, 2008|08:27 pm]
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consortofvenus
From his myspace: You've never seen a love like his. You've also never met a rapper quite like him either... one so truly and unequivocally devoted to his people, their legacy, and his hopes for their future. Through the mastery of words, Redskin seeks to make dreams manifest in the form of rhyme-driven oration, syncopated to perfectly complementary beats. His intensity gets the blood moving to a pounding pace; it's virtually impossible not to empathize with his desires and connect with his enthusiasm.

Redskin's confidence is unabashed and for a person constantly under the scrutiny of the publics' probing attention, his motives are uncharacteristically, and pleasantly, transparent. He makes it clear that he will settle for nothing less than supremacy, both for himself and his crew. Lest you be quick to hastily brush aside his assertions as empty boasts, 'Skin's got the facts to back his every utterance.


This Is Me video--- the song and video that first introduced me to Redskin. I likes it lots. Not only does he have charisma, in that raw sort of way, but there is much in his ethos that I can agree with. Not to mention his desire to make good music; that might be the best part when it comes to rappers, for me. How many are only in it for the glits and the glamor; not the art; people who'll sell their soul for money and fame.

Also see the bolded (by me) lines. It certainly reminds me of what LaVey and Gilmore say about ritual.
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hello everyone! [Feb. 20th, 2008|07:11 pm]
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markxiii
Ok since this is a new com and all, and a few people have joined, why not tell us all about your selves. Why you are here, what you hope to get outta it. What your beliefs are, etc.

Ok me first.
I'm Stella, wife to the lovely theevillucy. We live in sunny *looks outside at the dark and rain* Southern Ca.
I was once what some call wiccan (we only used that term to be PC really) and then kinda decided it wasn't really for me. The whole coven thing, blahblah. So my magiks and beliefs are rather eclectic at times, as is my spelling.
I tend to be a goofball, unless I'm pist. Then I yell and cuss. ALOT.
Anything else, feel free to ask.
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Satanist Enabler [Feb. 5th, 2008|02:52 pm]
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windiebird
[Current Location |Ft Worth, TX]
[Current Mood |curiouscurious]

I have a question for any practicing Satanist. I'm personally not a Satanist but find much wisdom in LaVey's teachings and the philosophies he drew from as well. I find the Satanic Bible one of the greatest philosophical achievements in modern times. However, I've noticed such different views on where Satanism stands. For a philosophy/religion based on pure, unadulterated independence, this makes sense but it raises some issues.

How does Satanism stand as a 'pagan' religion? Do most Satanists shun neo-pagans? Embrace them?

How do you fill the 'void' LaVey mentions when talking about the human need for dogma? Do you choose a god or another addiction, etcetera?

When it comes to magick, what's your approach? Do you bother with the psychodrama, do you believe in energy fields affected by our thoughts or some other routine?

I want to know how modern Satanists get their Satan on, basically ^_^
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Gay Rituals & Satanic Socializing [Dec. 25th, 2007|02:18 pm]
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consortofvenus
I'm curious if anyone has ever tried putting a queer bent on Satanic ritual be it genderqueer, homomale, or homofemale? Care to share your ways?

Being a bisexual male I started working on a homosexual male version. Though it's barely started, just some text, because I haven't had the time, though I'll be working on it in the future. I'm trying to stick as close to the fertility ideas as possible although I'm finding that probably isn't as applicable as I hoped. But I'm still finding that uniquely Satanic aspect of male homosexuality.

And onto another subject, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has found the difficulty of being Satanic in the contemporary pagan-dominated occult comms. The lack of more Satanic ways on LJ, especially as someone who is very Laveyan, is limiting to me but such is life. Though at an atypical level for Laveyans I find pagan symbols very useful so it isn't all bad. Pagans generally have different ideas and there's nothing I can do about that. Similarly, chaos magicians aren't so numerous on LJ either and I get along with them better than I do pagans. I can't stand most of the internet outside of LJ as it is but I'm going to put up the old college try. I have too much time on my hands right now but then the offline world is as foreign to me generally as the online.
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